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UserGroupRights on the Hungarian Wikipedia

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Samat (talkcontribs)

Hi!

I would like to ask your help in connection to the current settings and possibilities of our MediaWiki configuration to clarify these questions before I open a new ticket on Bugzilla.

We use FlagRev extension since 2008, but there is a newer user group which we don't use at all: autoreview. Bureaucrats are able to add users to it and remove users from it, and there is a specified category for them in the list of users. But in the line of bureaucrats' rights on UserGroupRights not autoreview but reviewers is shown. Additionally it is very confusing, as we use custom trusted and editor user groups as part of the configuration of FlagRev on huwiki, and nodoby has any idea, what are these groups.

  • Is reviewer an existing user group on huwiki? In this case, why is it listed neither on the UserGroupRights page or on UserList page? Otherwise why is it in the line of bureaucrats rights on the UserGroupRights page?
  • What is the reason of the difference between the UserGroupRights page and how the UserRights page works? Are these two groups are mixed up somehow there?
  • Is it possible to completely remove this or these user group(s)?

Before FlagRev we used the old patrolling system, but it is switched off now. However, we don't use the patrolling system anymore, there are rights in the list of UserGroupRights related to it (patrolmarks, autopatrol and patrol).

  • Do we use these rights for anything on huwiki now?
  • If not, is it possible to remove them completely from the system?

Thank you for your answer and help in advance.

Jackmcbarn (talkcontribs)

The reviewer group doesn't exist on huwiki. It will disappear from the list of what bureaucrats can add on September 25th. (The fact that it was on that list was a mistake; bureaucrats couldn't actually add it.) There shouldn't be a difference in how the different pages handle rights. If you want to completely remove the autochecked users group, you can, but they would probably require the project to demonstrate consensus first.

Samat (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your help. Of course we will hold a vote about the required changes, but first we have to understand what we would like to vote on :)

One of the problem that the group bureaucrats see on the UserRights page (autochecked user=autoreview) and the group they have the right to change according to UserGroupRights page (reviewer) is different. See hu:File:UserRights.png and hu:File:UserGroupRights.png. So the reviewer group is not in the list of what bureaucrats can add, but autochecked user is. And bureaucrats can add and remove users to and from the autochecked (but not the reviewer) group. Could you please answer why it works like this?

Jackmcbarn (talkcontribs)

The reviewer group being listed as something that bureaucrats can add/remove is a bug. I've already submitted a fix for it, and it will be live on your wiki soon.

Samat (talkcontribs)
Jackmcbarn (talkcontribs)

That's not a bug. That's a real group that you could use if you wanted, but it sounds like you don't need it on huwiki. We can remove that if you get consensus.

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