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Modern?

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Wbm1058 talk User contributions

Re:"Flow is a project of the Core features team at the Wikimedia Foundation to build a modern discussion and collaboration system".

This system doesn't look very "modern" to me at all! Over half of my 1920 by 1200 monitor is filled with nothing but white space. What it brings back to memory is working in 40 columns on my Commodore 64. This will set Wikipedia back in time to before the world wide web even existed.

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Edit summaries

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Gryllida talk User contributions

It could be really useful to be able to specify meaningful edit summaries for each message and each edit of a message. I find it hard to browse my contributions history at this wiki (and I may or may not be ten times more active on another wiki).

"page" and "history" tabs non-functional on Talk:Flow page

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Sj talk User contributions

At the top of this page, the "discussion" tab is the only one I can click on. The other two tabs are visible but can't be clicked on.

OS X, Chrome 36.0.1985.125

TheDJ talk User contributions

Sj: And most importantly. You use monobook :)

In monobook, pagetabs indeed do not seem to work.. Reported as bugzilla:70288

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"Edited N ago" ----> rollover to "Edited <timestamp>"

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Sj talk User contributions

Right now "Edited N ago" becomes "<timestamp>" on rollover, just as the time of creation does.

That's slightly confusing: clearer would be to leave "Edited" at the start on rollover.

TheDJ talk User contributions

Sj: Reported as bugzilla:70289

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Unable to see the subject of a new topic

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Helder.wiki talk User contributions

On watchlist, I can see the title of the section (or the name of the topic, in the system used on Village Pump of ptwiki ), but in Flow notifications I can't. It just says "<someone> created a new topic on <somewhere>", and since the URLs are confusing, I can't use the hover on "new topic" to get that info either.

TheDJ talk User contributions

Helder.wiki: Filed as bugzilla:70290

Quiddity (WMF) talk User contributions

And bugzilla:63713 to get navpopups working. :)

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Uncomfortable path to linking to a topic

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Gryllida talk User contributions

Can't find my past topic... so here it goes, a little again. I browse this board and decide to link someone to a thread. Currently:

  1. click ...
  2. click permalink
  3. copy the topic:lalalala bit from urlbar or from the page
  4. switch tab
  5. type [[
  6. paste
  7. type |
  8. switch tab
  9. copy topic title
  10. switch tab
  11. paste
  12. type ]]

...a long path. :-) Now, it is the same with old way, except that it doesn't take me to single-thread view to perform all these operations. This perhaps makes it easier to link to multiple threads at once.

Also, when linking to a thread before (with classic wiki markup pages), it was one of many on a page. It was not a single thread.

Perhaps steal design from here: https://docs.python.org/2/reference/lexical_analysis.html#physical-lines -- move mouse over the headlines and watch what changes :-) (it used to even highlight a currently selected header with yellow background, but no longer does).

Helder.wiki talk User contributions

Gryllida: frwiki uses something like that (see w:fr:MediaWiki:Gadget-AncreTitres.js), and I import their script for personal use everywhere.

Gryllida talk User contributions

Done but I don't see it

Gryllida talk User contributions

I would like Talk:Flow#Topic:S1g7r6h4nj2o6un3 to work to link to this thread, not only Topic:S1g7r6h4nj2o6un3.

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JavaScriptless Flow takes to topic title edit box when I'd like to edit my own message

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Gryllida talk User contributions

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TheDJ talk User contributions

i don't fully understand this point, can you try to explain it a bit more thoroughly ?

Quiddity (WMF) talk User contributions

This is tracked at https://trello.com/c/ycaDQdUj/358-non-javascript-mode-edit-post-workflow

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Flow does not provide edit summaries

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Gryllida talk User contributions

I recall there was some discussion earlier about generating some, but I don't see progress. Not on this Flow instance at least.

Helder.wiki talk User contributions

This is particularly important to provide attribution for snippets of content copied from other pages.

Sj talk User contributions

Is there a single feature-request/aggregator for the discussions / requests around edit summaries?

Gryllida talk User contributions

Flow/Prior_discussion-thread-roundup#Edit_summaries

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Flow takes the ability to edit (or create) multiple threads at once

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Gryllida talk User contributions

Hi. Suppose someone wrote something like this:


Hi. I need help with wiki markup, I think it needs me to install Notepad.exe. --Foo~~~~~

Hello. What happens when you try to install Notepad.exe? --Bar~~~~
It is not compatible with my mobile platform. --Foo~~~~~

Now, I'd like to ask 2 questions. First, I'd like to notify (in response to the first line) that there is no need in notepad. Second, I'd like to reply to a third line and ask what mobile platform the folk's using. Typically that's possible in one edit, but I feel that Flow treats them as separate.


Also, I may want to create 2 topics at once. Previously this was doable by clicking ?action=edit&section=new, and typing an extra headline:

Subject: Foo
Content:

Foooooo! --~~~
== Bar ==
Bar~ --~~~

On a bigger scale, I may even click edit on a village pump and reply to all questions (this means multiple threads) in one edit. It is convenient, while not at all possible with Flow. I typically do this for my own convenience (how this decreases edit count is quite another question).


Please consider this challenging query. It's probably not even possible to resolve, and bears purely rhetorical nature. Or is it doable? :-)

Helder.wiki talk User contributions

I would like improvements in this area too (but it seems flow allows one to click in reply for multiple comments in the same page, and save them separately - but without reloading the page)

Sj talk User contributions

This seems directly related to the ability to refactor the comments of others. Both could use the same interface.

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JavaScriptless Flow does not allow listing back

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Gryllida talk User contributions

I see a "load more" button (something JS users usually experience as infinite scroll). Clicking it takes me to the next page of Flow topics on this board.

  • I would like to also have a back button.
  • I'd like to be able to set how many results to see per page.
  • I'd like to be able to browse to the 'oldest' and 'newest' page.

See how LQT does this on this page, for example.

(On a related note, I'd also like to have a readable URL for these things. But that's cosmetic.)

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