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New URLs make recent changes unusable

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121.219.255.121 (talk)

It was already annoying enough that there was no diffs, or "changes since your last visit" functionality in flow, so you had to manually look through the page for new posts, but now with the new URLs, the page name isn't even shown, posts are not grouped by page, and the title is useless gibberish.

http ://i.imgur.com/UE2oBXA.png

I only found this page again by randomly clicking on every Topic link until one of them happened to be this page.

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please let me delete my own topics nobody replied to yet

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Gryllida (talk)

i see i asked about 'all-unfolded' mode earlier, i do not need that question, i reaised that this mode already exists

please provide me with an option of completely erasing a topic :)

Jay8g (talk)

Gryllida: I really don't think this is a good idea, as it would allow people to completely hide evidence of wrongdoing, etc. This would be like allowing people to revision-delete their own edits, which is not allowed and also a very bad idea.

Gryllida (talk)

Jay8g: Surely we can have this evidence in a talk page history without cluttering the talk page itself?

Gryllida (talk)

(This message had not wrapped properly to me; the "lf?" overlaps the "..." at the line end.)

Jay8g (talk)

Gryllida: Hide is supposed to be being worked on, perhaps to actually hide the post/topic (see this post).

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please make the interface more compact

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Gryllida (talk)

some things like topic author and stats; a reply author's nick; reply/edit next to a reply; occupy a whole line

please redesign the layout so that these things do not leave that much space at the right

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please fix the reopen thing, it says some identifier is missing

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reopening topic causes previous revision identifier error; tracked as bugzilla:68172

Gryllida (talk)

Topic:Rysuphmvgxlka4oy here i see an error when i am trying to reopen this topic (i am the one who closed it)

the error says: Previous revision identifier is missing.

Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

Tracked as bugzilla:68172

please add link to the markup doc

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Gryllida (talk)

when i post a new message, i see licence details below it; please add a link to the markup documentation as well

Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

Adding the Extension:WikiEditor toolbar (and VE as an alternative), are both on the to-do list. (trello link) The WikiEditor toolbar has the built-in "Help" for markup documentation, as well as the buttons to automatically add some of it.

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please make bullet lists less confusing

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Gryllida (talk)

i just use '*' at line beginning and expect a non-numbered list to appear like usually it happens in wiki markup... it instead just adds an indent:

  • one
  • two
Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

Tracked at bugzilla:67833 ("List item CSS currently broken")

Gryllida (talk)

The same with numbered lists,

  1. one
  2. two

...they don't even get numbered properly. Are you not using the same parser as a wiki page? Thought it's up to the server (PHP thing, such as ?action=parse API) to return numbered content.

Gryllida (talk)

Interestingly, it is proper HTML element (ol and li); I'm at a loss here. Presumably the CSS was smart enough to bork it.

121.219.255.121 (talk)

Gryllida: It's just because they set overflow-x:auto on all elements within flow posts, and since the bullets and numbers are actually outside of the list element, they get hidden.

Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

Thanks, I've updated the bugreport with that info.

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please let me view a talk page with all discussions unfolded

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Gryllida (talk)

you have modes

  • 'compact' (only headlines)
  • 'full' (headings, who/when started a topic)

please also add:

  • 'extra full' (unfold all discussions)
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please provide more info on closed topics

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Gryllida (talk)

when a topic is closed it should say

  • who closed a topic (like when one draws a consencus and closes a discussion, his nickname shoud appear)
  • let me reopen a topic if i like (like when i'd like to say that the conclusion someone made was incomplete or wrong)
Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

We should already be able to reopen topics (currently prevented by a bug, but the patch is merged today, according to bugzilla:68172, so should be live next Thursday).

Re: who closed/summarized a topic - Hmm, some of our existing templates do this, or encourage this, and some don't. I guess it would be better to standardize on including the information though. I've created a trello card for it, but let's continue to discuss it here.

(Short example list follows:

Gryllida (talk)

I feel we have to — at least — provide both functionalities here:

1) Some projects probably don't show who closed a topic on the talk page, but that information is available in talk page history. It should remain available in some sort of history, with Flow.

2) Some projects clearly do show who closed a topic. Flow should also be able to show it.

Personally, I would encourage all projects to use scenario 2, but if really needed then it could be configurable (i.e. a "sign" tick box in the interface which closes a thread).

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[42011993] 2014-07-19 06:58:24: Fatal exception of type Flow\Exception\InvalidInputException

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Titusfox (talk)

this comes up every time i click a link

Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

That's bugzilla:68224, for the old-style links not redirecting properly, and has a patch ready for review. Should be fixed soon. Thanks. :)

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"Permalink"

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Jay8g (talk)

I am sure this has been discussed before, but "permalink" is not a helpful word to use. It is not a term that non-technical users will understand (even the sidebar link uses "Permanent link"), and Flow is supposed to be designed for non-technical users. Also, it is not accurate: new posts can be added, existing ones can be edited, etc. A better label for the button would be "link to topic"/"link to post".

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