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Internal error at [[Topic:Rvn1lfzn6r8vn0db]]

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Going to page Topic:Rvn1lfzn6r8vn0db produces

[516969bf] 2014-09-21 19:17:04: Fatal exception of type MWException

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Templates in topic titles can be expanded

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I created a topic with title {{draft}}. Quite correctly, that's how it renders on the Flow page. However, there are circumstances under which the template expands, such as here. Presumably that shouldn't happen?

PS: the same with <math>, here.

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Flow topics do not appear in categories

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I tried to add Topic:S2rjakm9xomtshnq to Category:Testing, but it does not seem to show up there. Is that intentional?

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Flow topics appear to have their own talk pages

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It appears that Flow topics have their own talk pages: I found one by accident, and found that I could create and edit it. Is that desirable?

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Editing a comment after it has been replied to

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It seems to be possible to edit a comment after it has been replied to. There does not seem to be any warning that there are replies depending on a previous state of the comment, nor is there any clear indication that the reply is to an old version of the comment. Of course it is possible to do this in raw wikitext, but Flow is going to be so much better as a discussion system.

Could Flow make it clear when editing a comment that there are depedent replies, please?

Could Flow indicate that a reply is to a previous version of the comment, please?

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We just got hit by a live example Flow Failure Case

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A hyper-partisan website with substantial traffic just LINKED DIRECTLY TO ONE OF OUR TALK PAGES because it wanted its own ATTACK-PIECE inserted into our BIO OF A LIVING PERSON.

The current talk page is currently struggling to sort out what, if anything, should go into the article. The issue here is not about the specific content. I hope I don't have to explain to anyone why this is event is a Very Bad Thing, how this would become common if Talk were ever replaced with Flow, and how the impact would be catastrophic under Flow.

Deltahedrontalk contribs

As far as I can tell, this is exactly what the strategy behind Flow is about. If Flow makes it easier for newcomers to edit the talk page, then that is deemed to be a Good Thing, and a success, not a failure for Flow. Of course, it may be that you and I think it a Bad Thing for building an encyclopaedia, but WMF think otherwise. Indeed, the WMB Board chair is on record as saying that

  • We want to attract new editors. They don’t have to become heavy editors, they could even contribute once in a while, as long as we get lots of them. We have to make it easy enough for anyone to contribute so that people once again feel that “anyone can edit.”
  • If that means changing the dynamic, this might very well be the time that we have to do that.
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As long as a proper talk page is still provided, the troll-space provided by flow could simply be ignored by the proper users and editors of an encyclopedia. If one day this troll-space will become the only talk page, it's no fun any longer.

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Title change not reflected in prompt

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If you change the title of a thread, then reply to the thread, the prompt in the reply box still prompts for a reply to the old title

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Changing a title which is 256 characters long

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If you create a title of exactly 256 characters, it works fine. Then try editing it to add a sibgle character at the beginning. That seems to work, but actually truncates the title by about 50 characters. See

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