Extension talk:Semantic Forms/Example

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I'd like to know your opinions on how to name properties:

• For Authors, why not call the property "Author" instead of "Was written by"?
• For Genres, why not call the property "Genre" instead of "Has genre"?

Are there guidelines on how to name semantic properties?

Well, I like to name properties as prepositions (a) so it makes sense in a sentence, (b) so it's obvious what the relationship is, and (c) to differentiate them from template fields, which are probably called "Author", etc. There are no guidelines, but if you want to, you can think of that as a guideline. Yaron Koren 16:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Great example -- next to do, a demo

Great example -- and tool. Can't wait to use it. Would be nice to have a 'demo' as well. Furthermore, would be nice to see how others are able to leverage these concepts at various other wikis. Rauterkus 12:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, did you see this section? Also, there are various links in the documentation to discoursedb.org, which currently serves as the main demo wiki. Yaron Koren 15:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AddData

Hi, I made my first experiences with semantic mediawiki with this example - everything works fine except if I add data. If I add a book page I have a red link to its author - yes, but it doesn't point to the "Author" form - refresh page doesn't help. If I create a new page with Author form it's ok. Next problem is, that I don't see a list of the books from the author, but if i query the author via wiki-browser I get the list of books. My Wikiversion is 1.13. What could I have made wrong?? - --Ulli 757 10:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

if I make a new save from the author's page it works - but that's not what I want - --Ulli 757 10:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you follow all the instructions exactly? Unfortunately, without access to your wiki, there's not much I can do to diagnose the problem. You could always create a public wiki on Referata, and try to duplicate the problem there. Yaron Koren 17:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I tried to reproduce my bug on referata.com (once with "Bücher" and once with "Books" - probably I do something wrong but I don't know what. My book is "Lockruf der Wildnis" from Jack London, Jack London has a red Link on my books and if I click to Jack London I expect that the new page should open with the authors form, but the new page is empty - --Ulli 757 20:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi - you need to add the "Has default form" call to the "Was written by" property. Was that part confusing in the instructions? Yaron Koren 01:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, It works fine now - have a lot of thanks - It was my mistake, I didn't recognize that I have to add the link manually; in the section "Enable links to form" I just read "nothing to change with MediaWiki 1.13" and didn't read the rest. (next time I will print english text instead of reading on monitor...) - thank you and best regards --Ulli 757 06:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, cool. I can see how that text would be confusing - I tried to improve it just now. Yaron Koren 14:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

yes, nowbody is able to skip the text know :-) - I am very fascinated by this technique and after some more experience I will design a datastructure and implement Semantic Media Wiki and Semantic Form to my wiki. I watched some "semantic wikis". Some of them have a weak performance. I wonder if this is more a question of weak infrastructure or more a question of weak datadesign? In any case, I would like to warmly thank for your extension and semantic web - I didn't knew it before. - --Ulli 757 18:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know - performance isn't really my specialty. And I don't know if I can take credit for the semantic web, but thanks. :) Yaron Koren 03:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)