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In traditional talk page technology, there is such problem with heavily used talk pages as invalidation of inbound links due to archiving. If I give a link (such as [[namespace:page#section]] to an active discussion in, say, a wikiproject in English Wikipedia, then in several weeks this link will become nearly useless. Do LiquidThreads offer permanent links to discussions, which are preserved even if a thread moves to a talk page named differently?
I have all old messages of Extension talk:ParserFunctions as new! This extremely annoying!
I do have some trouble finding a revision that works with the trunk of mw 1.17.x (r92980)
The revision given by the Snapshot finder (r92258) results in this error message:
Fatal error: Class 'RequestContext' not found in /var/local/mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php on line 362
Whereas chosing an older revision, such as r89877 results in this error message:
Fatal error: Call to undefined method FauxRequest::getSessionArray() in /var/local/mediawiki/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php on line 390
It is either or, I have been unable to find an intermediary revision that would work. Some kind of compatibility chart (or, as previously requested, tags) would be nice to have.
Try using MW1.17 with Liquid threads from the MW1.17 branch or tag. http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_17_0/extensions/LiquidThreads/ The head of LT failes with the error you give when used with older MW (I think RequestContext is new in MW1.18)
Howdy,
I know there is work being done on 3.0, but is there a public svn for the stable version (that'll also be updated with every new stable release)? Hoping to implement on hackerspaces.org if possible! Thanks.
how do i allow people to post on the liquid threads with out having the edit rights im trying to set it up on this page http://imperialism-wiki.zxq.net/index.php/Bug_Reports
would have asked on irc but it seems to be down
that didn't help unless u can tell me how to allow all user to have edit wrights on just the discussion tab and nothing else because no matter what i do when i go to edit then click start new thread all i get is "You cannot post new threads to this discussion page because it has been protected from new threads." but when i login to my account which has edit rights i can make a new thread
I completed install liquid threads but I can't 'start new discussion' link. Exactly, when I click link, a circle-shaped wait indicator appeared in page, but the page ever pass to next phase.
I installed setted LocalSetting.php like this:
require_once("$IP/extensions/LiquidThreads/LiquidThreads.php");
and I runned update.php.
I'm using on Apache server on Windows 7 Professional with MySQL.
ps. Is it possible relationship with $wgHook setting? I'm newbie on mediawiki and server admin so I did nothing set about any hooks.
HELP ME PLEASE!!
why on some of my websites using liquidthreads i can create new threads, but on the other websites it shows ajax loader all the time (can't see writing form).my cache directory is writable.
posts could be ordered and sorted by date/last modification date/number of replies/author rank/author number of posts/helpful answer. it should be a setting in LocalSettings.php. first order by...then order by...etc
Is there already an option for explicit comment hierarchy indicators? Dreamwidth just added that as an option and it sounds like a lot of people love it, especially for accessibility/universal design.
- If you turn on this option, when viewing comment pages... comments will then display an outline-style explicit numbering of comment threads, allowing people who access the site via screenreader and non-graphical browser to see the relationships of comments inside a comment thread. (It will look sort of like a content outline: 0, 1, 1a, 1b, 1b1, 1b2, 1c, 1c1, etc.)
- This is a major accessibility win -- one of my screenreader-using friends didn't realize until after using LJ and then DW for about five years how sighted people were figuring out which comments were replies to which...
The new dark backround
- is ugly,
- makes links hard to find and
- makes new posts hard to find. Even pre boxes are highlighted more than new posts.
Is there a way to integrate LT into an article's content rather than on the discussion page, so as to flow more like other websites? Thanks.
Hi, just add {{#useliquidthreads:1}} to the page. Please be aware that regular editing of this page it thus only possible via the edit button just over the lqt section. Cheers
How do I enable the Edit toolbar with, Advanced, special Characters, and help options? I don't have the edit toolbar on my LQT. Please advice.
Is there any information about how to use some of the features described, such as the different thread views ("flat, nested, sorted by date, subject, etc." -- I see how to change the sorting, but not how to switch between flat and nested, much less what other options might be available)?
Also, is it possible to transclude views of a discussion thread or topic list -- some possible uses:
- table of all discussions on a given page (possibly with a maximum length)
- list of all comments by a given user
- table of all discussions or comments tagged with a given category
- more complex queries (all comments by a given user tagged with a given category)
I see that transclusion can be done with specific threads using {{:Thread:Talk:Page Name/Thread title}}, but {{:Thread:Talk:Page Name}} does not exist (I would have expected it to show all threads for that page, in some format or other).
00:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
I found these resources useful:
- $IP/extensions/LiquidThreads/README
- $IP/extensions/LiquidThreads/LiquidThreads.php - parameters at the end
Note: $IP stands for the root directory of your MediaWiki installation, the same directory that holds LocalSettings.php.
For example in LiquidThreads.php at the end:
/** Switch this on if you've migrated from a version before around May 2009 */ $wgLiquidThreadsMigrate = false; /** The default number of threads per page */ $wgLiquidThreadsDefaultPageLimit = 20; /** Whether or not to allow users to activate/deactivate LiquidThreads per-page */ $wgLiquidThreadsAllowUserControl = true; /** Whether or not to allow users to activate/deactivate LiquidThreads in specific namespaces. NULL means either all or none, depending on the above. */ $wgLiquidThreadsAllowUserControlNamespaces = null; /** Allow LiquidThreads embedding */ $wgLiquidThreadsAllowEmbedding = true;
Thanks, I'd seen these, but didn't really understand them; your message made me take another look to them. I think it wouldn't take more than five minutes to document these parameters better, and to add a bit more info to the section "User documentation" of this page, since it doesn't even say how to make LQT either opt-in or opt-out ("comprehensive documentation" may come later, but at this point it is so scarce as to be almost useless). So to save time to other people who might have the same question, this is what I did to make it opt-in: removing it from talk pages by default, leaving user control true (so that users can always turn them on if they wish).
/* Allows switching LiquidThreads off for regular talk pages (intended for testing and transition) */ $wgLqtTalkPages = false; /** Whether or not to allow users to activate/deactivate LiquidThreads per-page */ $wgLiquidThreadsAllowUserControl = true;
To make it opt-out, i.e. to use it by default in all talk pages unless someone turns it off, just don't touch anything.
The reason I chose opt-in is reading about various bugs in various places (eg. in Wikieducator), which doesn't make me confident about deploying it sitewide, and the fact that this seems to be current practice in various wikisites: add LQT in selected places, but not on all talk pages. By the way, there are also a couple of settings that I don't understand:
$wgPageProps['use-liquid-threads'] = 'Whether or not the page is using LiquidThreads'; /* Allows activation of LiquidThreads on individual pages */ $wgLqtPages = array();
What are valid values for $wgPageProps['use-liquid-threads']? And for $wgLqtPages? I tried putting a page title in the array so that only that page would use LQT, without any result.
And, finally, what's the role of those tags mentioned in one of the replies? Where does one use them? Thanks
Thread embedding is already supported on current software. You can use the <talkpage /> or <thread /> tags for that.
Many of the other things mentioned in the redesign (such as different views) are not yet supported.
i've put tag into the article: http://www.komentarz.org/pl/forma_fitness_si%C5%82ownia_tarn%C3%B3w_nowy_%C5%9Bwiat_48_www.fitnessforma.pl
but it shows that there is no discussion. look at the discussion page: http://www.komentarz.org/pl/opinie:forma_fitness_si%C5%82ownia_tarn%C3%B3w_nowy_%C5%9Bwiat_48_www.fitnessforma.pl
Browse, edit, preview or follow Talk:Article feedback to see how slow LQT can be. Not to mention the unorganized structure... It feels like 1999 :/
The rewrite should fix at least the speeds and I believe there is also plans for a design overhaul as well.
Good to hear. I know it has been a hell to code. It just doesn't seem to work well for hot discussions.
Extension:LiquidThreads/Redesign - huzzah!
- Ajax loading indicator never disappearing when reply button was clicked.
- Wiki Editor seems not supported.
is it general common problem? or Do I've suffer some extra case? (I'm using MW 1.17)
Hello. Sorry, I only have time to fix issues in the trunk version. Perhaps you can use trunk versions of MediaWiki and Lqt ?
I tried the trunk version to see if it fixed this error, but it ended up not working at all. (Something about "WatchAction." I started a different thread about it.)
Anyway, I decided to try to use it with the WikiEditor extension, and the loading indicator no longer stays around indefinately! Note that you have to load WikiEditor BEFORE LiquidThreads in your LocalSettings.php. Of course, if you dont like the WikiEditor extension, you are still out of luck ;)
Affirmative. You need WikiEditor to get LQT running properly. And whilst you are enabling WikiEditor you have to disable CKEditor since both extensions do not work on one wiki. This puts me into serious misery since CKEditor is very important. However LQT is equally important for me. I would not like to decide which of them to abandon. Due to user feedback WikiEditor is sadly not an option. For the time being I cannot upgrade to 1.17. Is there any chance that the current dependency of WikiEditor and LQT will be reversed if possible at all? One may be frank about it. I am prepared for the worst. Cheers
Oops, I was wrong. Installing WikiEditor did only fix the display of existing threads. It is still not possible to add new ones (loading indicator keeps on turning and turning). I would greatly appreciate a version of LQT working with MW 1.17. Using trunk of MW, which is MW 1.19 as I understand, is sadly not an option for me.
- Edit: I miraculously got it working on MW 1.17 with r68779 of LQT. No WikiEditor is necessary and CKEditor is up and running too. However I am still in fear of the future. LQT is a fantastic extension. It ought to be supported by every MW version.
Hmm, I do not think that this would be wise. I trust that the developers of LQT have this page on their watchlist. This should be sufficient to make them aware. Considering that WMF is using WikiEditor on its wikis it is not too far off to assure that they integrate well. Of course, since MW is really great an useful for multiple purposes there is an increasing wiki world outside WMF which might not think that WikiEditor is optimal. On the other hand, since WMF is paying for the show they should have the say. I am sure that they will definitely avoid a dependency if possible. Cheers
I am getting the following error after trying to go from the 1.17 version to the trunk version (LiquidThreads-trunk-r96248.tar.gz):
2011-09-04 20:10:51: (mod_fastcgi.c.2711) FastCGI-stderr: PHP Fatal error: Class 'WatchAction' not found in /wiki/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Thread.php on line 115
I am using lighttpd with fastcgi and php 5.3.2. My mediawiki version is 1.17.0.
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